Yes, well. . .I can tell you from personal experience that anything McElroy (and/or Carnell, for that matter) says about personal matters should be taken with a truckload of salt. . .and with multiple truckloads of salt when they're playing the victim card, as here.
I've seen them blatantly misrepresent and exaggerate other things just like this in order to make themselves look better and their critics look worse. They're both particularly prone to falsely characterizing valid and sensible criticism as "attacks", especially when they've been argumentatively forced into a corner and have no other options -- apart, of course, from behaving like adults and conceding that, well, yeah, okay, they might have been wrong or have made a mistake.
Nothing is ever THEIR fault or responsibility; it's always someone else's "bad behavior" that DROVE them, the poor helpless victims that they are, into whatever disagreeable action they absolutely HAD to take, out of nothing more than pure and noble and above all squeaky-clean-handed self-defense.
Yeeeah. . .
. . .riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
In fact, there are no few sensible and rational people in the men's issues advocacy and activism movement who will be quite glad to hear of this, and even more who will just shrug with informed indifference and get back to the real and serious work involved.
By my experience, the common assessment that she's too often been too high-maintenance to be worth the little she did accomplish is entirely valid.
2.21.2008 7:56pm
Commenting on Dean's World is a privilege, not a right. Dean is your host, you are his guest, and you should behave in that fashion. Dean is not your babysitter, nor is he your punching bag. Please remember this. In general, you are free to disagree with anyone on any subject you wish, but abusive behavior will not be tolerated.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.
As Larry Niven would say, there is no cause so noble and worthy that it won't attract some fuggheads.
This is the sort of thing that drove many women (and men) away from the feminist movement.
I've seen them blatantly misrepresent and exaggerate other things just like this in order to make themselves look better and their critics look worse. They're both particularly prone to falsely characterizing valid and sensible criticism as "attacks", especially when they've been argumentatively forced into a corner and have no other options -- apart, of course, from behaving like adults and conceding that, well, yeah, okay, they might have been wrong or have made a mistake.
Nothing is ever THEIR fault or responsibility; it's always someone else's "bad behavior" that DROVE them, the poor helpless victims that they are, into whatever disagreeable action they absolutely HAD to take, out of nothing more than pure and noble and above all squeaky-clean-handed self-defense.
Yeeeah. . .
. . .riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
In fact, there are no few sensible and rational people in the men's issues advocacy and activism movement who will be quite glad to hear of this, and even more who will just shrug with informed indifference and get back to the real and serious work involved.
By my experience, the common assessment that she's too often been too high-maintenance to be worth the little she did accomplish is entirely valid.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.