Dean's World

Via Glenn, yet more evidence of the antiwar disconnect from reality, in an article on the Dems' inability to turn over Iraq to terrorists and militias:

Force a showdown, in other words, and use any means necessary to get the bloodshed ended.

After the events of the last year, does any serious person really think the withdrawal of American troops would lead to less bloodshed in Iraq? Of course, this is only Rolling Stone, which lately is a sort of glossy left-wing NewsMax, but I bet you could find a half-dozen calls for intervention in Darfur or elsewhere on precisely the opposite reasoning in the same magazine.

But what exactly are these young idealists campaigning for?

Indeed, that's exactly what they should be asking themselves. "Peace" is not Al Qaeda safe havens all over the Sunni triangle.

What really worries me is that these are the Obama supporters, and while I hold out a lot of hope that events on the ground and a general election campaign will force a significant moderation of his views on Iraq, his current views and advisers are troubling.

It's been over 30 years since we elected a peace-at-any-cost President, and we and the Iranians are still paying the price today. Let's hope Iraqis will not have to spend the next 30 years under the thumb of terrorists because we make the same mistake twice.

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Dean Esmay:

Our friend John, who lives in New Hampshire and has thus meet most of the major candidates including Obama, tells me that even though he won't vote for Obama he's pretty sure that if Obama wins he will be too responsible to really just yank our troops out of Iraq. I hope he's right.

2.11.2008 12:26pm

teqjack (mail):

Nor is it just Iraq, as you know. The Boston Globe today had an editorial that, as usual, blamed Israel for everything wrong in Gaza. The twit called for Israel to discuss things with Hamas: a good trick, since Hamas refuses to even admit Israel exists - just a bunch of targets with a few weapon-users sprinkled in, all of which (not of whom) must be killed.

2.11.2008 6:00pm

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