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Why I won't raise my daughters in Pakistan

Zack Ajmal looks at the data, and I add my own two cents.

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Naftali (mail):
One of Zack's questions is who makes better political leaders.

If men and women are different, and political leadership requires certain qualities, then why would holding that one gender makes better leaders be a thought crime?
1.29.2008 3:40pm
DanielH:

If men and women are different, and political leadership requires certain qualities, then why would holding that one gender makes better leaders be a thought crime?

It is true that men and women are different, on average, in terms of certain characteristics. But if one tries to universalize from this, one's positions move from intelligence toward ignorance (though ignorance is not a thought crime).
1.29.2008 5:11pm
Naftali (mail):
Daniel,

I"m not sure, but I think you are saying that even if men are more likely to posses characteristics fit for leadership, that does not mean that mean necessarily that a particular man is more fit for leadership than a particular female.

If so, I would agree, but that does not speak to the question.

And, I suspect that at least some of the differences between men and woman are in fact very near universal.

Accordingly, if we posit that those male characteristics (such as in the previous paragraph) are singularly beneficial to leadership, then it would follow that all things being equal save for gender (such as how i understand the question), a man makes a better leader.
1.29.2008 5:52pm
DanielH:

Accordingly, if we posit that those male characteristics (such as in the previous paragraph) are singularly beneficial to leadership, then it would follow that all things being equal save for gender (such as how i understand the question), a man makes a better leader.

Even if I granted that this were true, I still would say it would hardly ever come into play. We're really never in that "all else equal" situation. We are usually faced with a limited set of candidates, each posessing quite a unique set of characteristics, many of which are important for leadership, and only some of which are (or may be?) highly correlated with gender. For this reason, among others, I think it is unwise to have a set rule regarding gender and political office. And, for what it's worth, I have the Grand Mufti of Egypt on my side of this issue.
1.29.2008 6:03pm
zach.:
Naftali,

maybe, but you're operating in a vacuum. what are the characteristics that define all good leaders? are there any? and is there a gender difference concerning these characteristics? until you get specific your posits are just a logical tautology.
1.29.2008 6:04pm
Aziz (mail) (www):
naftali, if you can give a specific example of a character trait different between men and women, which is relevant to "political leadership", then you have a point. Until then, in the absence of such, men and women both all under the generic category "human" and traits relevant to leadership are the same.
1.29.2008 6:21pm
Naftali (mail):
Actually, aziz, it's at least an open question.

And the resolution is the resolution regardless of what I do or do not write here.
1.29.2008 7:02pm
zach.:
Naftali,

I wouldn't say it's at least an open question. I would say an open question is all it is.
1.30.2008 9:49am
TallDave (mail) (www):
I'm not sure how one can argue women aren't treated "equally" here, unless you mean they're treated better. They receive more college degrees, are more likely to get custody of children, etc.

More men are in leadership positions because men are more status-seeking risk-takers (and, ironically, that's mostly because women prefer higher-status men).
1.30.2008 3:20pm
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