Candide (mail):
You start by drawing a valid connection between events in Iraq and Pakistan. Then you decide to sound the alarm that Afghanistan is in imminent danger and we need more troops there Right Now!

So because all the US troops in Iraq can't always prevent an assasination of Iraqi allies in Baghdad, we need to transfer those troops to Afghanistan in hope that they will prevent an assasination of Taleban commander in Pakistan?

I know that sounds twisted but that's the only logical thread I can trace in your post. Deny that logic and all you are left with is incoherence.
1.7.2008 1:40pm
Aziz (mail) (www):
So because all the US troops in Iraq can't always prevent an assasination of Iraqi allies in Baghdad, we need to transfer those troops to Afghanistan in hope that they will prevent an assasination of Taleban commander in Pakistan?

no, the thread between the two events is that Al Qaeda is resurgent and their reach is long, which is why we need to start addressing them at the source, which is Afghanistan. Iraq will improve, all elsebeing equal, if we up the boots on the ground in Afghanistan.

Speaking frankly, a troop withdrawal from Iraq is likely (something Im not exactly pleased about) in some form or fashion (though I am skeptical we will ever leave Iraq entirely, no matter which Democrat is elected). If thats the case, then, I think that its even more important to redeploy some of those troopsto Afghanistan.
1.7.2008 1:45pm
Mark @ Urthshu (mail) (www):

Al Qaeda is resurgent and their reach is long, which is why we need to start addressing them at the source
That isn't logical, Aziz.

I mean, it sounds correct and all, but if we agree on your first half - that their reach is long - then attacking them at their source just kills off one small bit of it.

Its not like they've got some strict command and control going on. They're closer in description to a cancer that has spread throughout the region. Getting 'the source' is good, yes, but its going to take more than that.
1.7.2008 2:52pm
Aziz (mail) (www):
so, then you disagree with the premise that we need more troops? I dont grok your critique, Mark.
1.7.2008 2:55pm
Mark @ Urthshu (mail) (www):
Just looking at the reasoning of the statement I quoted, Aziz. No, I don't disagree that we need more troops or funding or whatnot in Afghanistan - I just disagree that going after the Taliban/Al-Q in Afghani/Pakistan is the only answer to an apparently global-scale problem.
1.7.2008 3:19pm
Mark @ Urthshu (mail) (www):
It isn't like we're totally disagreeing, IOW
1.7.2008 3:21pm
Candide (mail):

Al Qaeda is resurgent and their reach is long, which is why we need to start addressing them at the source
Don't get me wrong, but I think it's only logical to be more concerned about murder of our allies in Iraq. Apparently, that Taleban commander made a deal with Pakistan gov't. I guess that makes him our ally also, but twice removed so we should defer to Pakistanis in dealing with that situation.
1.7.2008 7:52pm
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