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Is Iraq's Economy Taking Off?


Gatewaypundit has the Haider Ajina translation of PM Maliki's statements as reported in an Iraqi newspaper:
On the economic front we have much to be proud of, unemployment has declined from 50% to 20% and inflation has gone down from 60% to 16%, these are tremendous achievements.
Great news, if true, though we don't know the source or reliability of these numbers. It seems fairly safe to assume the economic picture is, at least, getting better rather than worse, which may help explain why the violence is falling. Those two trends are synergistic, creating a positive feedback loop: more available work means fewer young men joining militias or taking $100 to plant IEDs, falling violence (via Glenn, Dean Barnett notes both Iraqi civilian casualties and coalition deaths continued to decline in October following September's precipitous drop) means more markets and businesses can open.

Time, meanwhile, takes the Decapigate Part Deux false report of 20 headless bodies and runs with it, making that tidbit of faux news the centerpiece of a story on why the surge has "reached its limits" and is going to fail. Watch closely, folks, this is how memes are born and demonstrates why media bias and laziness matter.
The horrible discovery in Diyala province Monday was disturbing even by the standards of Iraq's running sectarian violence. Iraqi police said they found 20 decapitated bodies dumped near a police station west of Baquba, the capital of Diyala province.
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The prognosis for Iraq, barring a dynamic transformation on the part of the Iraqi government very soon, is grimly apparent. As U.S. forces lessen their presence in the coming months, killings of the kind seen Monday in Diyala will persist there and most likely spread to areas calmed by the increase of U.S. forces.
Oops! Never mind. It's just another Emily Litella moment for the MSM.

UPDATE: It's probably also worth noting Iraq's electricity production and oil revenue are, according to the Iraq Index, at all-time highs.

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RyanR (mail):
Nothing tempers violence like having something to lose.

Ryan
10.31.2007 2:10pm
zach.:
The success or failure of the Iraq mission has to hang on whether Iraq can establish a stable economy and provide jobs and money sources outside of the terrorist infrastructure. As you say, even though the numbers are still bad (and may be worse than are being reported by Maliki, can't say without seeing the sources), they are at least moving in the right direction and I think that's really the only important thing at this stage of the game.

Running with the loveable-loser come-from-behind storyline we talked about earlier, the bosox's winning strategy was "one out at a time, one inning at a time, one game at a time," and I think you could definitely come up with a worse view for progress in Iraq.
10.31.2007 2:13pm
RyanR (mail):
Which brings up an interesting point- can a people have so much to lose that they no longer have the capacity for violence, and by extension, risk?

Ryan
10.31.2007 2:14pm
zach.:
Ryan,

there's an article I remember reading arguing that too much economic protection, job protection, welfare, etc. can produce such a risk-averse marketplace that economies stagnate (viz. france).
10.31.2007 2:31pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Fareed Zakaria makes the point in Future Of Freedom that no democracy with GDP per capita over 9,000 has ever failed.
10.31.2007 2:35pm
CaliforniaJOSH (mail):
I wonder what percentage of Iraq's GDP is essentially foreign aid provided by America.
10.31.2007 2:36pm
RyanR (mail):
The problem with job protection is that if it's too stable then nobody wants to give it up to try the self employment thing. It's bad enough here, but with the tax system in europe, there's no point. Here the self employed work harder but have a shot at big money. There they just work harder, so why bother? Hence everybody plays it safe and innovation is stifled.

Ryan
10.31.2007 2:41pm
RyanR (mail):
Dave- I agree in principle, but the sample period is by necessity very short. At a mere ~231 years old, america is the oldest democracy. It's still in its infancy compared to some of the historical governments (i.e. Rome, persia, etc) It's only about 10 generations from its founding, which isn't a lot of time for things to settle out. And every other democracy is younger than america. We still haven't seen what happens in times of extreme peace, since we haven't had it yet. It strikes me that military readiness will steadily decline until somebody thinks war is worth a shot. So I think that Democratic Peace will eventually fail.
10.31.2007 2:49pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Dave- I agree in principle, but the sample period is by necessity very short.

Shorter even than you think -- America has only been a liberal democracy since around the turn of the century (universal suffrage is a requirement) and has been over $9,000 GDP per capita even less time.

Still, between them the liberal democracies have something like 9,000 combined years of continuity (I could be off on the #, citing from memory).
10.31.2007 3:17pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
It strikes me that military readiness will steadily decline until somebody thinks war is worth a shot.

It seems pretty unlikely. I mean, the U.S. could easily invade Canada or Mexico. We don't, because they have nothing we want that badly, given how rich we all are.

One thing I've learned reading Hayek is that Hitler's rule was largely the result of a society that had already abandoned liberalism for the promise of socialist planning, and was suffering the consequences. They put him into power because they thought he was someone who could get things done.
10.31.2007 3:34pm
Mark @ Urthshu (mail) (www):

We don't, because they have nothing we want.

Well, oil, but who cares about that?
10.31.2007 3:53pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Well, yes. Nothing we want badly enough to go to war to take it-- which itself is a function of wealth.

Can you really conceive of a situation where we would invade Canada for oil, short of economic collapse?
10.31.2007 3:56pm
RyanR (mail):

Still, between them the liberal democracies have something like 9,000 combined years of continuity

But all in the same 100 year space. They've all existed under nearly the same geopolitical conditions. What we haven't seen is what happens when the world is all democratic. It's the cynic in me that expects things to fall apart.
10.31.2007 4:50pm
naftali (mail):
I wonder what percentage of Iraq's GDP is essentially foreign aid provided by America.

A fair question.
10.31.2007 7:35pm
zach.:
Naftali,

I'm not so sure it is a fair question. Regardless of where the money is coming from it is a real investment in a real economy that is reaping real dividends.

The best numbers I could find were from the CIA factbook which claimed 33 billion pledged 2004-2007 in economic aid, with the 2006 estimated GDP as 40.6 billion. Which would put foreign aid at somewhere around 10-20% of the economy (which is ~70% oil-based according to the brookings institution pdf).

But those numbers don't really mean much. Iraq is not a functioning state and we shouldn't expect its market to perform like one. The goal is baby steps here. Get the market rolling, get the economic infrastructure in place so that the economic and political situations can improve synergistically rather than spiral downwards synergistically.
11.1.2007 10:29am
TallDave (mail) (www):
JOSH/naftali,

The answer is in the Iraq Index. They list how much was disbursed in 2007; it appears to be a few billion, or about what Iraq sells in oil every month.

The real question is how big Iraq's non-oil GDP is, and no one really knows for sure, but it's probably somewhere between half and a tenth of total GDP (lots of uncertainty there).

So, overall, U.S. aid is probably less than 10% but more than 2%. My guess would be around 5%.
11.1.2007 11:12am
TallDave (mail) (www):
Also, notice in the Iraq Index graph (p42 in my copy) that the amounts are tailing off (there is, as of now, only 2 billion left to disburse) so the percentage would have been much higher in 2005/2006, both because more U.S. aid was disbursed and because Iraq's GDP was lower.
11.1.2007 11:19am
naftali (mail):
Thanks for the info Dave. I get most of my non-Israel related news here.

Zach, I agree with you.

I am certain everything will work well.
11.1.2007 12:42pm
CaliforniaJOSH (mail):
Thanks for the info guys.

I didn't mean to imply that I think it's a bad investment, however, the corruption that is a part of Arab (and Chinese, and Mexican, etc etc) culture is something that really bothers me. If we're spending our children's future money on these people, it better not be going into the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt individuals.

As I understand, the democrats pulled the plug on south vietnam partly because they wanted money more than they wanted freedom/democracy. If Iraqis are the same way, and I'm not saying they are, then we should pull the plug on them too.

It's sad when I consider how corruption is the norm in most of the world. It reminds me of a line from the movie Syriana (an unrealistic movie): "Corruption? CORRUPTION? Corruption is the reason WE win!"
11.1.2007 1:15pm

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