It's hard to imagine a Hollywood without drunkenness and fornication
It's hard to imagine Hollywood today without drunkenness and fornication. It didn't always use to be that way. Or, rather, there was a time when Hollywood tried to police such things. They created a code of conduct simply called The Production Code.
well, the Hays code was created in response to pressure from influential catholic groups. and note that it only placed bounds on behavior shown onscreen (for example a shared bedroom should be depicted with separate beds). it said nothing about the actors, directors, or producers in their private life. indeed, many notable actors in the 20s, 30s, 40s,....,00s were and are drunkards, philanderers, substance abusers, etc.
I never said it was. Stop putting words in my mouth.
zach,
From the Wiki article I linked:
Public outcry over perceived immorality, both in Hollywood and in the movies, led to the creation in 1922 of the Motion Pictures Producers and Distributors Association (which became the Motion Picture Association of America in 1945). Intended to project a positive image of the movie industry, the association was headed by Will H. Hays, who had previously been United States Postmaster General and the 1920 campaign manager for President Warren G. Harding. Hays pledged to establish a set of moral standards for the movies.
Emphasis mine.
It wasn't just the Catholic Church that was upset. And the Code itself was just one prong used to try to clean up Hollywood overall.
perhaps more than catholics were upset, but it was only the catholic ability to enact a boycott that made the outcry a serious threat. but in any case i think my point still stands that hollywood (and, by extension, society in general) has never been all that clean. Judy Garland was addicted to studio-approved amphetamines and barbituates by age 16.
No, behavior wasn't better; it was just appearances were kept up on screen and bad behavior off the sound stages was kept - by the studios - out of the press. And they could, because if you didn't toe their line or let them manage the image the actor wouldn't get work or that paper/radio network wasn't going to get the advertising.
Easy to do with few outlets and the outlets policing that sort of thing. So I speculate.
8.13.2007 8:52pm
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It's hard to imagine Hollywood today without drunkenness and fornication. It didn't always use to be that way. Or, rather, there was a time when Hollywood tried to police such things. They created a code of conduct simply called The Production Code.
well, the Hays code was created in response to pressure from influential catholic groups. and note that it only placed bounds on behavior shown onscreen (for example a shared bedroom should be depicted with separate beds). it said nothing about the actors, directors, or producers in their private life. indeed, many notable actors in the 20s, 30s, 40s,....,00s were and are drunkards, philanderers, substance abusers, etc.
Life was not better then.
I never said it was. Stop putting words in my mouth.
zach,
From the Wiki article I linked:
Emphasis mine.
It wasn't just the Catholic Church that was upset. And the Code itself was just one prong used to try to clean up Hollywood overall.
perhaps more than catholics were upset, but it was only the catholic ability to enact a boycott that made the outcry a serious threat. but in any case i think my point still stands that hollywood (and, by extension, society in general) has never been all that clean. Judy Garland was addicted to studio-approved amphetamines and barbituates by age 16.
I didn't claim you said life was better, I just observed that it wasn't.
Eventually, we started letting people go to hell in their own way, and I think overall we're happier that way.
Easy to do with few outlets and the outlets policing that sort of thing. So I speculate.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.