Michael: it's an interesting question. Should I link the attacker, who's attacked me multiple times without provocation even though I only once posted something angry in his direction? Does that make it a "blogwar?" Or how about I just note the fact and move on?
I'm honestly not sure what the right answer is. You tell me.
In any case, the article series I'm posting speaks for itself I think.
This obscure bureaucrat has been unbelievably harsh and negative toward me. Way out of proportion to anything I ever said about or toward him publicly (including that he called a friend of mine a child-murderer). So what's my/our obligation toward him?
Michael: it's an interesting question. Should I link the attacker, who's attacked me multiple times without provocation even though I only once posted something angry in his direction? Does that make it a "blogwar?"
Oops, sorry about the extra “the” in there toward the end.
But while I'm here,
Even if a link you provide leads to a temporary traffic spike for the baiter, if all we find there is bullshit, rest assured, it will hurt them in the long run.
I am totally mystified... Orac's latest post talks about the NYT article and doesn't once mention DW or the articles being posted here. Did you actually read his post or did you just hear about it?
I'm not seeing it, Dean. I read the entire post and seems he's just pointing out issues he has with using a single case as an indicator of a systemic problem. Hell, he even points out that one can go to four different cancer specialists and get four different responses in regards to diagnosis and treatment regimens.
What's curious is, is that Orac is a cancer an oncology surgeon which is precisely the bottom line of Miklos and company, re: early detection and intervention with surgery.
" The clinical issue is straightforward. If a
solid tumor is detected before any of its
cells have disseminated and the tumor is
resected, then the patient is cured. Hence,
the key is early detection. Instead of misguided
megasequencing projects and bioinformatic
deconvolutions that are manifestly
tangential to the main issues of dissemination
and metastasis, it would seem more
prudent to invest in the development of
diagnostic technologies for detecting cancer
growths, as well as the properties of
cells that are destined to metastasize."
Without inaccurate information, it wouldna be the Intarwebs.
Or the Internot, or the Wide-Eyed Web, or the Fogosphere, or the Hoax of Christmas Past.
With the internet you just gotta keep your sense of humor and skepticism, realize the bear gets everyone every now and then, that's it's not a cure-all for everything, or anything for that matter, and that it gets as good as it gives.
It ain't gonna change the world really, but then again it can be entertaining and even useful sometimes. On occasion it is even accurate and helpful. But you don't necessarily hitch your ego to it, your brain, or your star either for that matter.
You just take it for what it is, and is not, while remembering that it ain't exactly the Second Coming.
As an old buddy of mine used to say about Russian Women: Enjoy, but verify. Though I always thought it should be, Verify, then enjoy.
But that's just me.
7.31.2007 11:23am
Commenting on Dean's World is a privilege, not a right. Dean is your host, you are his guest, and you should behave in that fashion. Dean is not your babysitter, nor is he your punching bag. Please remember this. In general, you are free to disagree with anyone on any subject you wish, but abusive behavior will not be tolerated.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.
As any dang fool can tell, if Orac links NYT, it means DeansWorld.
Apparently, an unanswered question is a floating disjunctive between "activists" and working scientists whomever they mighten be.
Anyway, the next part will appear tomorrow and will be even more damning toward the current government research-industrial establishment.
I'm honestly not sure what the right answer is. You tell me.
In any case, the article series I'm posting speaks for itself I think.
This obscure bureaucrat has been unbelievably harsh and negative toward me. Way out of proportion to anything I ever said about or toward him publicly (including that he called a friend of mine a child-murderer). So what's my/our obligation toward him?
You tell me. I'm listening.
Where on Orac's latest post does he attack you personally ?
Dean,
I say you should link him.
Yes, link baiting exists. But it’s similar to the price we usually pay for free speech.
You could ignore him. But IMO, when you acknowledge an attack here, you should link it and make it easier for the us readers to judge for ourselves.
But while I'm here,
Even if a link you provide leads to a temporary traffic spike for the baiter, if all we find there is bullshit, rest assured, it will hurt them in the long run.
a canceran oncology surgeon which is precisely the bottom line of Miklos and company, re: early detection and intervention with surgery." The clinical issue is straightforward. If a
solid tumor is detected before any of its
cells have disseminated and the tumor is
resected, then the patient is cured. Hence,
the key is early detection. Instead of misguided
megasequencing projects and bioinformatic
deconvolutions that are manifestly
tangential to the main issues of dissemination
and metastasis, it would seem more
prudent to invest in the development of
diagnostic technologies for detecting cancer
growths, as well as the properties of
cells that are destined to metastasize."
No echoes here. Not even from yourself.
Dean,
Sometimes you are really funny. God bless.
The blogosphere is what it is I guess.
I'm with Ron on this one... or, am I?
Or the Internot, or the Wide-Eyed Web, or the Fogosphere, or the Hoax of Christmas Past.
With the internet you just gotta keep your sense of humor and skepticism, realize the bear gets everyone every now and then, that's it's not a cure-all for everything, or anything for that matter, and that it gets as good as it gives.
It ain't gonna change the world really, but then again it can be entertaining and even useful sometimes. On occasion it is even accurate and helpful. But you don't necessarily hitch your ego to it, your brain, or your star either for that matter.
You just take it for what it is, and is not, while remembering that it ain't exactly the Second Coming.
As an old buddy of mine used to say about Russian Women: Enjoy, but verify. Though I always thought it should be, Verify, then enjoy.
But that's just me.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.