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Shocking Social Experiment

Now the funny thing is I've known women who actually have the gall to get angry at this sort of thing and site it as proof of rampant male chauvanism or "oppression of women." That's what life was like in the '70s and '80s especially...

Anyway, more funny at Nationalbanana.com.

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B. Durbin (www):
I particularly liked the businessman whose eyes kept flicking down, then away with a horrified look that said, "I shouldn't be doing this..."
7.4.2007 3:41pm
Dishman (mail):
I'd say that anyone who considers themselves harmed by the eyes of another is incredibly weak and thin-skinned.
7.4.2007 5:08pm
John_B (mail) (www):
This isn't a sociology experiment. It's re-proving a biology experiment.

Men look at breasts. It's hardwired into the male, at least the hetero male. If they didn't look at breasts, breasts would not be considered sex organs, even if secondary. Then they'd be like wrists or elbows. Men notice them, but don't look at them very much.

But I would appreciate an explanation of why women, who apparently dislike having their chests looked at, wear clothing with words written across their chests. Not only written, but made cryptic by the geometry of the region, thus ensuring that men spend even longer staring at their chests. And then to get pissed off?

Talks about 'Catch 22'...

May I suggest that such shirts be limited to no more than six or seven letters, ascertainable with a quick glance? Text that scrolls below the belt line is even more awkward.

And yes, this is one of the reasons why I wear sunglasses so dark you can't tell what I'm looking at.
7.4.2007 6:07pm
Bill from INDC (mail) (www):

But I would appreciate an explanation of why women, who apparently dislike having their chests looked at, wear clothing with words written across their chests.


More ostentatious is the trend of young women wearing short athletic shorts with lettering across the rear.

Makes me want to make it a point to move in close and stare, and then, when angrily questioned, say, "Sorry, I'm dyslexic."
7.4.2007 6:17pm
Dan the Highway guy (mail) (www):
One thing we always thought was odd was the sorority Sigma Delta Tau whose members wore shirts as mentioned above...

"Um, is that an invitation?"
7.4.2007 6:26pm
HokiePundit (RDB) W&M 0L (mail) (www):
Here's the thing, though: a lot of girls have no idea whatsoever that they're causing men to stumble. Plenty do, but a lot don't. A well-endowed friend of mine gave the high-school girls in her Bible study full-frontal hugs so they would realize what they're doing to guys they so casually hug. Yes, men act like pigs and women act like display models, but the problem is often ignorance. Both sides expect the other to start acting properly; start acting right yourself and watch the people around you change.
7.4.2007 7:18pm
Kacie Landrum (mail) (www):
Notice how little footage she has of women there? Because I imagine a lot of women have trouble looking away from her breasts too. They're just so... big. And obvious. And out there.

It's like trying not to stare at that pimple on your friend's forehead. Something that hugely, glaringly conspicuous just can't be ignored.
7.4.2007 8:04pm
Gerbera Tetra (mail) (www):
As a comedian (who's name I can't recall) said,

"Look if I had half my nuts hanging out of my shorts i wouldn't expect you to look me in the eye either."

Really though the whole purpose of breasts is to get attention. Don't fall for that baby feeding line, only the glands are needed for that, a completly flat chested woman can feed a child as well as a big chested one. Boobs tell males that a female is of breeding age (at the animal level, not social).

At the instictual level women know it, as do men. we accept it inside but social mores make us try to bury the instict for a politer society. Thus my try not to look and women get offended when we do. Deep down we all know what's going on.
7.4.2007 8:07pm
John_B (mail) (www):
Okay. Here's a 4th of July Resolution, to be taken up by all American males:


For the next 90 days, we will not look, even fleetingly, at women's breasts, clothed or bare.


Will there be compliments or complaints (from women, that is, I know the guys will complain)?
7.4.2007 10:00pm
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
Sorry, John_B. While I am a truly Red, White, & Blue patriotic American, I am also a red-blooded male American.

I also agree that it's silly for well-endowed women to wear low-cut, tight, revealing, or other garments which (basically) deliberately draw attention to the female torso, then become offended because men "stare at them."

Honey, if that's the issue, wear a very baggy sweater. End of fracking problem.

On the other hand, if they're just wearing a normal t-shirt... :)

One of the funniest t-shirts I've seen has an almost Zen-like quality. It's a tee for women, and the logo reads "Excuse me, but I do have a face..."

At one level it's really cruel, but at another level it's really funny.
7.4.2007 11:46pm
Sean Golden (mail) (www):
Back when I was younger and less wise, I once was "caught" looking at a woman's breasts. The woman in question was wearing what was then called a "tube top" that was see through, and had no bra on. Her breasts were so "out there" that it was almost like a wet T-Shirt.

I don't know why I personally set her off, I'm sure virtually every other male in the area was looking at them too, but she actually came over and asked me not to look at them. As I recall the conversation went something like this:

Her: "Why are you looking at my boobs?"
Me: "I have to assume that you want me to."
Her: "What! I want no such thing."
Me: "That's not what your choice of clothing says."
Her: "Hmph! I should be able to wear what I want."
Me: "Hmph! I should be able to look where I want."
Her: "I didn't wear this so YOU could look at me."
Me: "Well, that's what you get if you wear something like that. If you expect me to apologize for looking at something that you have consciously put out in the public arena on proud display, you are going to be seriously disappointed."

She walked off in a huff.

To this day I have no qualms whatsoever about pointedly looking at the breasts, or ass, of any girl who wears clothes that are so revealing. I assume they do it on purpose, and I feel absolutely no guilt whatsoever for looking. If they want to be treated like ladies, they can dress like one. If they want to be treated like tramps, they can dress like one. I'll accommodate them either way.
7.5.2007 2:16am
HokiePundit (RDB) W&M 0L (mail) (www):
Sometimes it's nice to look at a nearly naked ass...
7.5.2007 10:13am
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
Oh, Lord, Sean, I forgot all about that cognitive-dissonant classic: "I can wear whatever I want, and STOP STARING AT ME!!"
7.5.2007 10:15pm
Dean Esmay:
I'm going to wear clothing that clearly reveals my testes and my penis. My penis being at times at least semi-erect.

What's your objection to that? Is it a study in male-oppression that anyone should object to such a display?
7.6.2007 9:00pm
Sean Golden (mail) (www):
Dean:

If you want to get attention from females, you'd be better off displaying most of your wallet.

Heh, let the beatings begin. ;-)
7.7.2007 12:03am
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