zach.:
I wonder what the Hamas-run government will do (if anything) to the Hamas-run television station for their defiance?
5.11.2007 12:51pm
JRogge:
I am sure they will pull it immediately off the air. This will be done by putting a blinking "Off the Air" caption under the running footage. This will warn people that even tough they are watching this program it is technically "Off the Air"! They may also restrict these shows to live performances which they will sponsor and host.
5.11.2007 12:56pm
maryatexitzero (mail) (www):
"Resistance" Micky is back AND he's "defiant"
5.11.2007 1:03pm
Ronald Coleman (mail) (www):
LOL thank you Mary!!

You must admit, however, that the program is entirely consistent with pan-Arabist thinking as to how to identify and solve all problems.
5.11.2007 1:12pm
maryatexitzero (mail) (www):
You must admit, however, that the program is entirely consistent with pan-Arabist thinking as to how to identify and solve all problems.

Like these quotes from the Resistance Micky show?

Hazim (Adult): Islam will spread to all parts of the earth from one end to the other and justice and good and kindness will spread. Did history witness a time period better than that when Islam ruled?...
Saraa: You beloved kids will be the ones who shall restore the glory and the culture of the [Islamic] Nation.


Girl call in: chants song:
“Oh Jerusalem we are coming,
Oh Jerusalem it is the time of death.
Oh Jerusalem we will never surrender to the enemy
And we will never be humiliated.
It is beloved Palestine that taught us what to be.”


I don't know what this says about Palestinian democracy, but it sure says a lot about Palestinian parenting.
5.11.2007 1:37pm
naftali (mail):
Has there ever been a generation raised under this type of modern brainwash that has come out of it.The younger generation is far far more radical than the older.What gives bleeding hearts reason to think that they can ever be reprogrammed.and programmed is exactly what they are.The world would be better off, and so would these arabs, if this national identity born in shame and bloodlust,getting worse and worse as time and modern means of mind f##k progress dissolves as they move to the palastinian arab state of Jordan and else where in the arab world assimilating into the more healthy genneral arab culture..This national entity is a basketcase.Let it die already.
5.11.2007 1:56pm
DanielH (mail):
These Hamas people are fools, and, more than that, they are perpetuating a sinful hatred. Their ideology is based on tribe, on the idea that nations have nothing to gain by living together in peace. It seems that a similar mentality (at least in part) led an excellent poet to pen the following lines:


If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.


But the world has moved on. At least since an economist discovered comparative advantage (and thus the relative benefits of trade as opposed to plunder), we have known that peace brings more prosperity to war. Fuad Siniora, the Prime Minister of the Lebanese, has learned this:

The Arab states are not seeking to wipe Israel off the map. Rather, we are seeking the legitimate goals of an armistice, secure borders and the ability of all of the region’s people to live in peace and security.

Hamas leaders might not have learned the lesson yet, but many Palestinians have and more will.
5.11.2007 2:17pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Almost as good:

"Bush ate my master's thesis!"

"I didn't finish my thesis because I didn't want my graduation with him," said Menzie, 35, a philosophy major.

Yeah, I'm sure the bong had nothing to with it.
5.11.2007 2:18pm
naftali (mail):
Daniel,

You are an idiot if you think the message of psalms is equivalent, even in jest, to hamas national media.

And you are an idiot if you think that there is a Jewish historical precedent for the collective arab obsession with it's enemy, the Jews.And we really have had enemies,always.
5.11.2007 3:11pm
DanielH (mail):
Naftali,

If you think that "similar" means "equivalent," then I think you are deaf to the meanings of English words.

If you cannot see that Arabs who lost their homes in '48 or '67 have legitimate grievances against the state of Israel, then I think you are blind to history.

If you cannot see that legitimate grievances, unchecked, can turned into soul-corrupting anger, for Jews as well as Arabs, then I think you are blind to the human condition.

Peace,
Daniel
5.11.2007 3:20pm
naftali (mail):
The utter intellectual depravity of the suggestion that there has ever been so stupid a comment as "the babalonians ate my homework teacher is astounding.

You will find no people more ready to concede that ills brought upon it are it's own moral doing than the Jewish people.This is perhaps one of the most salient messages of the Bible.



But, actually, what shocks me when I see videos of what goes for a sermon in a radical mousqe
or what goes for analysis in radical media is far more the frothing stupidity of the content than its fanaticism.
5.11.2007 3:26pm
naftali (mail):
By "even in jest" I meant to include similar.And if you think they are similar then you are an idiot.

Those 'legitimate' grievances are THE defining element of that arab identity.

Therein lies the distinction between your quotation and what goes for culture in gaza and the west bank.
5.11.2007 3:30pm
DanielH (mail):
Naftali, your problem is that you have made yourself unable to compare the Palestinians' present situation to that of the ancient Israelites because you ignore any aspect of Palestinian culture that doesn't fit into this caricature of yours: "Those 'legitimate' grievances are THE defining element of that arab identity." My wife is half Palestinian, through her mom's side. You seem to know very little about their culture and what motivates it.
5.11.2007 3:42pm
DanielH (mail):
And you are distorting the Bible if you are suggesting that the only parties held morally responsible are the Israelites. Are not Pharoah and the king of Babylon also denounced?

Conversely, if you think the Palestinians are incapable of self-criticism, apparently you haven't had many conversations with Palestinians.
5.11.2007 3:46pm
naftali (mail):
Actually, it is because I know way way too much about the ancient Jews.And even if your glass half full assessment was correct the comparison would be idiotic.

I assume that in five generations your progeny will
have to look in a family tree to know that they had an ancestor who was part of a people who were cynically ripped out of the arab world and nurtured
into a distinct national entity called palastinians whose only claim to fame was that they engaged the attention of the Jewish people.And they will be better off for it.
5.11.2007 3:48pm
naftali (mail):
And you are distorting the Bible if you are suggesting that the only parties held morally responsible are the Israelites. Are not Pharoah and the king of Babylon also denounced?

Don't move the goal posts.

In fact the role of the goim in Jewish fortunes is completely marginalized.You will find as many references to villains being the "hand" or the "lion" of G-d exacting "payment" from his people as you will find references to them in and of themselves.And that is ignoring the oral tradition
that views them even more minimally.
5.11.2007 3:54pm
naftali (mail):

And you are distorting the Bible if you are suggesting that the only parties held morally responsible are the Israelites. Are not Pharoah and the king of Babylon also denounced?



Don't move the goal posts.

In fact the role of the goim in Jewish fortunes is completely marginalized.You will find as many references to villains being the "hand" or the "lion" of G-d exacting "payment" from his people as you will find references to them in and of themselves.And that is ignoring the oral tradition
that views them even more minimally.
5.11.2007 3:55pm
DanielH (mail):
Where were the goal posts?
5.11.2007 3:58pm
Ronald Coleman (mail) (www):
The Jews stole the goal posts.
5.11.2007 4:31pm
DanielH (mail):
No fair! Give 'em back (and my homework)!
5.11.2007 4:52pm
Ronald Coleman (mail) (www):
No problem. We have an easy payment plan...
5.11.2007 5:38pm
Dean Esmay:
This just got promoted to "best discussion."
5.11.2007 10:46pm
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