John_B (mail) (www):
I think that's an excellent piece. I've sent it to a number of Arabs who are trying to understand what US foreign policy is about. It certainly clarified things for them.
3.31.2007 12:40pm
Mike (mail):
I read that back in 2001, off of Steven DenBeste's essential library. I've printed it and other works from that time, from Norvelle DeAtkine to Ralph Peters.

I also recommend reading Parameters as it is issued. I regret Proceedings has not been placed on the same free access as Parameters. Both publications are eye openers.

Yeah, the military does not think.

A tidbit: in the 1930's Chester Nimitz* was given an assignment with the brand-new NROTC at a university. Part of his job was convincing the professors that these navy officers teaching the courses were serious academics and not uniformed poseurs.

That adittude seems to be perpetual, and no matter how much it is disproved it needs to be done every generation.

*E.B. Potter, Nimitz, Naval Institute Press.
3.31.2007 1:27pm
Dean Esmay:
I'm surprised to learn that Parameters is available online and for free. Most impressive.

And yes, it pretty much obliterates most of the stereotypes about the U.S. military and the thinking of its leadership.

There is a reason why militaries all over the world send officers here for training. And it's not because they're part of a global U.S. hegemony that teaches them torture and imperialism, either.
3.31.2007 1:59pm
Dave Schuler (mail) (www):
For those who haven't read either of Mead's books, Jacksonians aren't the only force influencing American foreign policy. Check out my posts Jacksonians, Hamiltonians, and Wilsonians at War, my commentary on his second book, Power, Terror, Peace, and War and What's With This Hamiltonian, Jacksonian, etc. Stuff, Anyway?, a shorthand guide to the forces influencing American foreign policy.
3.31.2007 2:01pm
Mike (mail):
Thanks, Dave. I'll pursue those links at leisure.
3.31.2007 2:59pm
PFC_Koopmans (mail):
It seems like Mead has a useful way of thinking about the various factions in American politics. I found it very informative. I'm thinking I'm somewhere in the Jeffersonian or Jacksonian camps myself.
3.31.2007 4:26pm
Dean Esmay:
I've got deeply Jacksonian instincts (much to my shock, as I never really thought of myself that way and used to be a kinda new agey liberal guy) although my ideals are largely Wilsonian.
3.31.2007 4:56pm
John Weidner (mail) (www):
I'm a Jacksonian/Wilsonian combo myself. (Not that I have any use for President Wilson himself.)

America at its best is a combination of pugnacity and toughness, along with idealism and a hope of building a better world...
3.31.2007 10:47pm
Neocon (mail):
Just read the piece. Jackson was the 7th President, if I'm not mistaken. Just a minor oopsy.....
3.31.2007 11:46pm
bob (mail) (www):

A great essay which clarifies the cultural underpinnings of red states.

One nit is that I don't follow the author's reasoning that African Americans adopting Jacksonian philosophy in large numbers. Blacks suffer from problems of children born out of wedlock, single parent homes, and too much reliance on the welfare state. Basically this is the battle Bill Cosby is fighting with much resistance. It's hard to see how any of these pathologies remotely relate to Jacksonian values.
4.1.2007 11:39pm
Dave Schuler (mail) (www):
Spent any time in Appalachia, bob?
4.2.2007 1:38pm
Dean Esmay:
What Dave said. The original Jacksonians were fundamentally of white trash stock, and it's an illusion to think they were ever all that sexually virtuous. Indeed, read the piece carefully--it suggests the opposite.

You also need to spend more time in the ghetto. The mentality is strikingly similar.
4.2.2007 6:32pm
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