Dean's World

She's almost certainly not dead, although it was a good episode for once.

That story about Olmos trashing the model is hilarious. What the hell were they thinking using such a valuable model like that?

By the way did you literally mean hundreds of thousands of dollars? Or just thousands?

Hey, am I missing something here ? I don't mean to be a jerk, but I though Kevin had repudiated the "editorial policy" and was leaving of his own volition ? Is this not the case, or is his leaving restricted only to political commentary ?

I'm confused.

In the original series Starbuck was "abducted" by a group of shining figures who later turned out to be angelic like figures who were secretly assisting the Fleet against a Satanic like figure named Iblis (mythological implications obvious) if I remember correctly.

The female cylon who encountered the shining figures in a this series assumed they were the Final Five models until she actually saw the face of one of them and then realized appearances are not as they seem.

The exact same thing happened with Starbuck when she realized Leoben was not who he appeared to be during the out of time re-enactment of her mother's death. (In a related matter, have any of you noticed that the Cylons in general tend to show a peculiar aversion to lying, whereas lying is common among the humans? That's not an accidental set of circumstances.)

She was also not following a cylon raider but what she perceived to be a cylon Raider at first.

This is because given the evidence thus far it would appear that the gods, the shining figures, the final five models, and some others are either all the same beings or are all related or are parallel or overlap in some way.

Given the continuing emphasis on religious experience, the obvious manipulate and reformulation of the Cylons (if that is what they truly are - the are actually more androcyborgins) by some outside party, the persistence of death and mystical experience surrounding death (especially as they act as Guides to the underworld, or otherworld) I have drawn the conclusion that the most likely reason for the original departure of the 13th tribe (who apparently settled on earth) was religious. They probably would have rejected the original attempts to create the Cylon but for the religious reasons that they were Monotheists and would have rejected the idea of such creations, anticipating the eventual end of such an experiment.

They left as a result I surmise of religious transformation/dispute, just as Abram left his nation and people as a result of Monotheistic conversion. The original trek towards earth was no doubt a religious one and considering the fact that the Cylons have adopted monotheism (as I suspect the gods will eventually be seen as not competitors, but either servants of or partners with God) I also assume given the evidence that the cylons have either been manipulated by humans who are monotheists, aliens who are monotheists and know something of earth, or by the gods (final five) themselves.

The show itself is a strange (though very pleasant) amalgamation of various pagan myths (Greek, Egyptian, Mesopotamian) and retellings/reformulations of various Biblical myths (I do not necessarily consider myths unreal or non-factual just because they are myths) such as the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Cain and Abel, the loss of Eden, Canaan, the Exodus, the conversion of Abraham, the 13 Tribes, Adama (Adam), the Temple, the 13 Apostles and so forth.

The show also mirrors the original show but in sometimes (or often) a disguised and sophisticated fashion, which was also an amalgamation of pagan and Biblical myths.

But had the 13th tribe simply picked up and left without either knowing their ultimate destination, without it being prophesied, without some religious conversion or revelatory experience, or without eventual communication of their destination then no-one would have know how they got there, if they got there, or if they survived, or even what the name of their goal was. The writers of the scriptures mentioning earth could have invented the whole thing but the evidence in route seems to betray that possibility. therefore somehow word reached the writers of the scriptures the Colonists have of Earth, what it was, that it was the destination of the 13 tribe and that they made it. Meaning some type of religious revelation occurred either prior to the departure, after the departure (among the gods worshippers and scripture writers), communications were established, even if only briefly, after Earth had been reached, or possibly all of these things. These things could be known about because if a cyclical fashion of the events, which is a truer depiction of the Cyclone-like graphic motive (I plan next time to analyze the image to see how many arrow pointers occur around the lip of the vortex, but I suspect I already know), but that seems a blatant stretch of ham-fisted writing, and so less likely.

But therein probably lies Kara's real destiny, to serve as a modern lynchpin and possible communication's node between past and present and probably between New Cylon, Original Man, and Colonist. She may also act as a type of Oracle or Prophet between the gods and the Colonists,

I also expect to see the appearance of the Iblis character, though I have no doubt his/her appearance will be far more subtle than in the original series. He may already be among them in some sense in Baltar though I also suspect Baltar will serve a different if somewhat overlapping function in the future.

In any case I think it was a very good episode.

Personally I'm glad to see the end of Kara as a small minded, self-absorbed, petty, reckless teenage brat who Adama should have rode saddle on a long time before this. I suspect when she is encountered again she will be much transformed, or already under a transformation process. You may have already seen her this way already in one of the previous episodes if she appeared as who I think she appeared as.

Yeah, so no callin' Cylons Muslims.

They're clearly Jews.

No, they're Jews. There was a podcast about it. What, you didn't hear it? I think SciFi yanked it down. Too bad. Yep, big Jewish conspiracy.

Proof? You know how the fleet now has to subsist off that algae because their food recyclers were messed up? That was the Jewish Cylons. The fleet is one step closer to eating only matzo.

I had absolutely no doubt that Starbuck was still alive. Until I saw that she's "shooting a pilot with NBC". But people on TV have been on several shows before. Especially if they shoot different times of the year.

But Battlestar Galactica with no StarBuck?!? That'd be like not having Cylons....

Gary