It's pretty clear that he lied to the grand jury, especially once they started the I'm busy I forgot angle. That just seemed so silly. Fine I forgot about the salad dressing I had at lunch on the 27th. That is forgettable, but not nepotism was involved in setting up the guy who is beating me over the head with this information. Even if you grant that he was mistaken the first time, unless it is intentional forgetfulness you correct the record on try number two, not 5 or 6, or the trial you've "mistakenly" gotten yourself into at that point.
Since it seems likely that the identity of the juror will become known and could appear on cable news as early as this evening, I'll offer a two part prediction and a points award to the eventual winner.
For 15,000 points which way was the juror leaning and what media outlet will be the first to give him/her airtime?
The juror would have voted to convict and will emerge gloriously onto the scene on the Keith Olberman Circus Show.
It seems to me that they would have an extremely good case for overturning a conviction on appeal. If the judge excludes all evidence about whether an underlying crime was committed, how can that not be error?
Maybe it's not nearly so memorable if you discard the unproven assertion that anyone is "setting up" anyone.
I don't buy into the setup theory either. Never thought this should have gone to a grand jury. Don't thinkn he should have been prosecuted, but do think he is solely to blame for being prosecuted.
I still think the political operative in him was salavating a little when he heard. Having info others don't have is better than sex, oil, and gold combined for someone in the position of Chief of Staff.
David C., I'm not sure it is error. It against the law to lie to a grand jury, period. It doesn't matter where the investigation goes or whether it was a bad idea in the first place. It's not different in this sense to the Clinton impeachment.
2.26.2007 9:56pm
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Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
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What a travesty.
It's pretty clear that he lied to the grand jury, especially once they started the I'm busy I forgot angle. That just seemed so silly. Fine I forgot about the salad dressing I had at lunch on the 27th. That is forgettable, but not nepotism was involved in setting up the guy who is beating me over the head with this information. Even if you grant that he was mistaken the first time, unless it is intentional forgetfulness you correct the record on try number two, not 5 or 6, or the trial you've "mistakenly" gotten yourself into at that point.
Maybe it's not nearly so memorable if you discard the unproven assertion that anyone is "setting up" anyone.
For 15,000 points which way was the juror leaning and what media outlet will be the first to give him/her airtime?
The juror would have voted to convict and will emerge gloriously onto the scene on the Keith Olberman
CircusShow.It seems to me that they would have an extremely good case for overturning a conviction on appeal. If the judge excludes all evidence about whether an underlying crime was committed, how can that not be error?
I don't buy into the setup theory either. Never thought this should have gone to a grand jury. Don't thinkn he should have been prosecuted, but do think he is solely to blame for being prosecuted.
I still think the political operative in him was salavating a little when he heard. Having info others don't have is better than sex, oil, and gold combined for someone in the position of Chief of Staff.
Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.
Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.