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Power, Faith, and Fantasy -- An Interview with Michael Oren

PORTLAND, OREGON – Renowned American-Israeli historian and best-selling author Michael Oren is touring the United States promoting his new book Power, Faith, and Fantasy, a sweeping history of America’s involvement in the Middle East from 1776 to the present. It’s the first and only book on the subject ever written, and it’s current inching toward the top of the New York Times best-seller list for non-fiction.

I first met Michael Oren under Katyusha rocket fire when he worked as a Spokesman for the IDF Northern Command in Israel during last summer’s war against Hezbollah, and I met him again when he came to my home town of Portland, Oregon, last week on his book tour.

MJT: So tell us, Michael, why does America’s involvement in the Middle East 200 years ago matter today? What does it have to do with September 11 and Iraq?

Oren: Well it matters, Michael, because many of the same issues that Americans are facing today in the Middle East were confronted by America’s founding fathers – Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Washington. For example, they had to confront the issue of state-sponsored terrorism in the Middle East. They had to face a threat to the United States, and decide whether to generate military power and then project that power thousands of miles from the United States. They had to decide whether to involve the United States in an open-ended and rather expensive bloody war in the Middle East. This was, of course, the Barbary War, America’s first overseas military engagement and America’s longest overseas military engagement. It lasted from 1783 to 1815. During the course of this engagement, as my book shows, the United States was confronting a jihadist state-sponsored terrorist network that was taking Americans hostage in the Middle East. It’s very similar to what is going on today.

MJT: They were more than hostages, they were slaves, weren’t they?

Oren: They were slaves. But beyond the military component – the book is not a military history, it’s also a diplomatic, cultural, artistic, and economic history – I wanted to show Americans today that our experience in the Middle East has very deep roots. Overall it’s a story of magnificent things that America did for the Middle East. It wasn’t always about confrontation, it was also about schools and hospitals and building for development and artistic inspiration and cooperation.

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Dean Esmay:
I need to read this book.
2.20.2007 8:18pm
Michael J. Totten (mail) (www):
Yes, you do!

It's awesome, and I recommend it to everybody. His previous book Six Days of War is also amazing. That one reads like a thriller because it is so tightly dramatized.
2.20.2007 8:35pm
Stace:
I ordered it this afternoon. Great interview, Michael
2.20.2007 9:17pm
mariner:
We *all* need to read this book. Of course, once we realize we've had a Middle East problem for so long we'll be full-fledged Islamophobes, xenophobic bigots and racists. (Did I leave anything out?) ;)

What is old, is new again.

I read Six Days of War. I can't say I enjoyed reading it, but that wasn't Oren's fault. I can say I found his account engaging and enlightening.
2.20.2007 9:29pm
mariner:
... and while we're on the subject of books to read, I highly recommend My Year Inside Radical Islam: A Memoir. The author by recounting his experience tries to explain how "normal people" can be drawn to radical jihadist Islam.
2.20.2007 9:33pm
Dean Esmay:
(Did I leave anything out?)

I'm guessing "silly and a little embarrassed." Because the book isn't about any 200 year "problem" of the Middle East, but 200+ years of friendships, economic relationships, conflicts and mistakes, and great accomplishment.
2.21.2007 3:52am
Mal (mail):
We *all* need to read this book. Of course, once we realize we've had a Middle East problem for so long we'll be full-fledged Islamophobes, xenophobic bigots and racists.

Self-pity doesn't wear well on Muslims, and it sure as hell doesn't wear well on non-Muslims. If you aren't a xenophobic bigot or racist, then why should you care if some backwards, reactionary Islamist calls you one?
2.21.2007 10:28am
mariner:
Dean,

You guessed wrong.
2.21.2007 3:12pm
Dean Esmay:
How so?
2.21.2007 6:42pm
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