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Galactica Sunday (On Monday)

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Dean Esmay:
The show being an unending dirge is getting annoying.

On the flip side, I like seeing more of Caprica Six and the Baltar in her head.
2.12.2007 8:51am
Cynical Nation (mail) (www):
I typically like the "standalone" episodes myself, but I found last night's fairly lame. I found the writing sub-bar (Kevin, perhaps you *should've* written the episode) and just a little too Star Trek-y in the sense that some doctor we've never heard of before spontaneously appears out of the vacuum, and you're just sure he's going to be disposed of by the end of the episode.

I guess Helo's fan base probably liked the show, but I'm damned if I know what people see in the guy. I find him to be a tiresome, self-righteous, insubordinate prig. That probably affected my enjoyment of last night's episode as well.
2.12.2007 8:59am
Kevin D (mail) (www):

...but I'm damned if I know what people see in the guy.

It's all about the jaw.
2.12.2007 9:05am
Jack G (mail) (www):
I'd like to see an episode written that deals with three things simultaneously.

Moral decay which would be represented by Kara, the President, and the Col., though he's growing on me since he willingly took that clock to the mouth.

Cylon decay represented by both Baltar and Six.

And the decay of the Battlestar Galactica as evidenced by the appearance of the ship. Over time she has taken one helluvah beating from both the Cylons and natural forces. She must be in a terrific state of disrepair by now and in need of a serious refit. But you never see systems failing and the ship coming apart, which would realistically be happening. And often. Sooner or later they will have to find a way or a place or some kinda ally to help with refits and repairs. Or they will simply fly apart.

So I'd like to see an episode written that addresses these problems of decay and what needs to be done to correct each problem, or what happens if those problems are not finally addressed.

But as far as the show itself goes I think many of you are expecting far too much of it. It's just a show. You're gonna have good episodes and bad episodes and good overall seasons and bad ones. Just like in real life people have good times and bad times, times they excel and times they do not, or when they fail or face setbacks.

Nothing is good all of the time, nothing is bad all of the time (except maybe Enterprise - though that female Vulcan was really nice). Anywho I think that you can't expect Aeschylus out of a simple Sci-Fi Television show. Sure, it's the best Sci-Fi show ever in my opinion, and it has it's moments of truly great Greek Drama, but it's really just television. It'll never be Shakespeare, and even Shakespeare wasn't Hamlet or Henry the Vth every night of the week.

Sometimes you write the masterpiece, and sometimes you write the High School musical.
It's just all part of life.

Nobody is a genius 24/7.
And art is just art, it ain't ever gonna be perfect either. If it were it wouldn't really be art, and it wouldn't really be something humans could make anyway.
2.12.2007 12:46pm
Dean Esmay:
My criticism has been that the show originally seemed to be going somewhere. It mostly seems to just drift along now like a soap opera.

I think part of the problem is the nature of the American formula for TV series--they don't write things with an ending in mind, they just keep going until the fans get sick of it.
2.12.2007 1:15pm
Scott AKA TLHeart (mail):
Or the writers have a plan all laid out for a 5 year run, ala Farscape...which SciFi cuts after 4 years, and then had a movie to try and fix the missing year, but left an opening for another movie.

It all comes down to money, and SciFi said it was the expense of the puppets in Farscape that killed the last year.

As far as Galatica, the show has lost me as a viewer...the story is going no where...and it has turned into a night time soap opera but without all the sex.
2.12.2007 2:29pm
Kevin D (mail) (www):
The show is very story arc driven. If they don't have the entire run of the show plotted out in advance I think they have at least the following season to some degree. There's nothing wrong with that approach.

I mean, people are ragging on a show for going "nowhere" and calling it's doom and it's only in the 3rd season! Most shows don't find their feet until the 3rd or 4th season.

I'm recalling the fan favorite Star Trek: The Next Generation two-parter "The Best of Both Worlds," argueably the best two episodes of the entire run of the show, was the 3rd season finale and 4th season premier!

I guess I'm alone in this but I have every reason to believe that the best is yet to come.
2.12.2007 2:42pm
Dean Esmay:
Star Trek: The Next Generation only made it because the existing Star Trek fan base kept it going at a time when there was nothing like it on television. Even then it almost completely foundered until, after listening to fan complaints, they made some radical changes in the series starting in the third season (I think--it was whenever Riker got the beard).

Galactica started strong, got stronger, then stumbled badly.

Dude, the ratings tell the tale. They're in the toilet. They aren't going to make season 4. They've pissed *that* many people off.
2.12.2007 4:42pm
Jack G (mail) (www):

I think part of the problem is the nature of the American formula for TV series--they don't write things with an ending in mind, they just keep going until the fans get sick of it.



I'll certainly buy that statement as an overall principle and astute observation of American entertainment (TV, video games, films, music, serialized fiction novels) in general. I'll give 400 points for it too if anyone will let me.

Not that 400 points will stop that kinda crap, but it's the thought that counts.
2.12.2007 6:05pm
Kevin D (mail) (www):

Dude, the ratings tell the tale. They're in the toilet. They aren't going to make season 4. They've pissed *that* many people off.

Wanna place a wager on that? If I win you buy me a steak dinner. If you win I buy you a steak dinner.

Deal?
2.12.2007 6:14pm
Dean Esmay:
Depends.

Have they already made any official announcement about a season 4?
2.12.2007 6:24pm
Dean Esmay:
Whew, I'm glad I backed off, since apparently I am already wrong: Details right here, released today.

They expect to be renewed. They aren't sure whether they'll be renewed for 13 or 20 episodes.

They admit they aren't pulling in what it takes to satisfy advertisers and that they're looking at a key demographic of teenagers right now to keep them alive.

My prediction was wrong. They'll be renewed.

Given their spectacular ratings tumble however, especially amongst adults over 20, I would be shocked if they got renewed for more than 13.

That could be ideal. If they're told they're getting only 13 more and that they'd better pull themselves out of this nosedive if they want to see anything else, maybe they'll get their heads out of their butts.
2.12.2007 6:45pm
Kevin D (mail) (www):
I didn't know they got renewed.

Still, I think a smaller episode order might be what is needed. I know Ron Moore was complaining when SciFi ordered more episodes for season 2 than season 1. He counted that as amongst the contributing factors for some of season 2s poor episodes.

More episodes per season means that have to stretch their story out longer than they possibly want to. More opportunity for crappy filler.
2.12.2007 6:55pm
Dean Esmay:
I think that's a fair argument.

In fact I hope you're right.
2.12.2007 7:01pm
HokiePundit (RDB) (mail):
I'm with Kevin: I thought it was pretty good as a stand-alone episode. Cynical Nation is right in that it's a little too pat to have another doctor for only one episode (and where's Bulldog?), but at least they tried to fill it in a little by talking about him patching up Tigh's eye.

One thing that always comes to me whenever I see Helo is what the Cylons said when he was on Caprica: "He always does the right thing." He's probably my favorite character, with Cally and Gaeta close behind.
2.12.2007 7:10pm
Ken Hall (www):
Maybe so--maybe 13 episodes is the ticket. Tight writing, leave 'em screaming for more, give the cast and crew time to do other projects--a series of sprints (okay, 880s) rather than a marathon.
2.13.2007 11:33am
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