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Friday Night Open Thread

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Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
First!

OK, now that that silliness is out of the way... I can't tell if this video is working or not (my connection has problems with streaming), but here it is.

I never knew before that it was a Gerry Rafferty song.


Yes I'm stuck in the middle with you
And I'm wondering what it is I should do
It's so hard to keep this smile from my face
Losing control yeah, I'm all over the place
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am
Stuck in the middle with you.

Well you started off with nothing
And you're proud that you're a self-made man
And your friends they all come crawling
Slap you on the back and say
Please, please.

Try to make some sense of it all
But I can see it makes no sense at all
Is it cruel to go to sleep on the floor
Yeah I don't think that I can take anymore
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am
Stuck in the middle with you.
9.29.2006 7:29pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
You're a sneaky scum, Dean...

(I had other pejoratives in mind than "scum"; but I respect MJ too much, and they all would've reflected poorly on her.)
9.29.2006 7:31pm
Dean Esmay:
Technically that was a Stealer's Wheel tune, but yeah Rafferty was a member.

I love that song.
9.29.2006 7:35pm
triticale (mail) (www):
Comedians in front of me, humorists behind me...
9.29.2006 7:39pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
Well, yeah; but since I never heard of Joe Egan before, and I think Baker Street is a classic, "Stealers Wheel" (no apostrophe, according to wikipedia) means Gerry Rafferty to my ear.
9.29.2006 7:59pm
naftali (mail):
Can anyone recommend a good beer?

My favorites:

Fullers london porter
Belhaven scottish ale

Computer about to turn into pumpkin. See you tommorow night.
9.29.2006 8:01pm
Dean Esmay:
If you like a porter, are you attracted to the bitter or the sweetness?

I don't like scottish ales so I can't recommend one that's good, but I know a lot of good porters and stouts I could recommend (even though I rarely drink beer anymore, I know a lot about it).
9.29.2006 9:48pm
Dean Esmay:
So we've been introducing Jake to the Indiana Jones movies. We just watched The Last Crusade tonight. Fun movie. Unfortunately we had to see them out of order, so Temple of Doom is next. Sadly, that's the weakest of the three. (Really I think they could have stopped with the first one...)
9.29.2006 10:02pm
Scott Kirwin (mail) (www):
Just got a note from the Washington Times that they are publishing one of my pieces on Sunday.

:)

Time to do my Snoopy Dance.
9.29.2006 10:02pm
Foster (mail):
lol hav u heard about those moslem s in iraq?

tehy are shooting at are solders and stuff

oncei herd that tehy eat a christian firstborn on teh first &last night of ramadan

much like the joos
9.29.2006 10:31pm
Dean Esmay:
Heheheheh.
9.29.2006 10:40pm
jaymaster (mail):
I’m suffering through some major allergy issues tonight. Just popped my second Benydryl, so it won’t be long till I am completely incapable of human interaction.

Hasta la vista, ya’ll.
9.29.2006 10:59pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
Stefi and I are in the middle of remodeling our kitchen. None of you can possibly know endless chaos, who has not emptied all the cabinets along both sides of a 30-ft long kitchen, moved said contents to piles all over the living room, etc, etc. (Use your imaginations and fill in the rest.)

I was raised with the idea that hard work is good for the soul. But I don't believe in souls, or anything else. So now I'm stuck with all this work, and I don't even have a worthwhile excuse for it. What a bummer.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
9.29.2006 11:14pm
jaymaster (mail):
Strange….. As I was drifting off into the ether, just before I was awakened by a major myoclonic jerk, I experienced a mildly erotic vision of myself interacting with matoko-chan.

Or maybe I was with Martin Shoemaker….

You know, their names kind of look alike. And apparently my mind works textually/graphically like that.

Anyway, no offense Martin, but I hope it was matoko-chan…..
9.29.2006 11:43pm
MaryJ:
I'm nursing a sick tummy and then... DEAN!!!!! THAT STUPID PICTURE OF THE GIANT PILL BUG MADE ME WANT TO VOMIT!!!! I AM MAD AT YOU!!!

PLLBBTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9.29.2006 11:46pm
Mike (mail):
Ouch. My back. I moved the other day (been moving for the past two weeks, but the movers took the heavy stuff yesterday). Was back at the old apartment today cleaning and getting the last few things out. You know, there are never enough boxes and I have had to shuttle boxes - pack, unpack, pack, unpack - to get everything out. The new place is a townhouse, more room, and a garage to put my Sammy (the Sebring convertible) in for the winter. A garage! Oh, the joy! A garage! Bonus is I am less than a mile from work, so I'll be hoofing it most days, rain, snow or shine. (Gotta try to keep Sammy out of the salt as much as possible.) Heck, I hoofed it to school most days, so why not now?

Have a washer, but no dryer yet so clotheslines are up in the basement. Unpacking the books is going to be a special joy (meant that both straight and ironic).
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Naftali, MacAndrews Scotch Ale is one that will bite.

Arnold, the last place I was in the apartment complex remodeled the kitchen. Yes, emptying everything into the livingroom was another pain in my damaged back. However, I do enjoy remodelling and playing around with my saws and drills. One of these days I will get back into my own house and can landscape again.

Scott, mucho congrats, man!
9.29.2006 11:54pm
Dave_21865 (mail):
Twins lost, Tigers lost, still tied, two games left.
9.29.2006 11:56pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
naftali:


Can anyone recommend a good beer?


Oddly enough, I can, despite the fact that I can't stand alcohol. See, the rest of my fencing club members have each individually made it their mission to make up for the beer I'm not drinking, so I've been well schooled in beer.

The club has many different drinkers, with many different tastes. And yet they all seem to agree on one beer: Hacker-Schorr Weiss. There's a ritual involved in drinking it, although they tell me it's a practical ritual because of how it keeps the yeast in the bottle and not in you. You get the large bottle (they tell me the beer in the small bottles tastes different, somehow) and a slightly larger glass, plus a lemon slice. You rub the lemon slice along the rim, then crumple it and drop it in the bottom of the glass. Next you up-end the glass over the bottle; and then you right the glass and thus up-end the bottle. And then quickly but not too quickly, you lift the bottle out of the glass, keeping the bottle's lip right at the level of the foam. When you get to the top, you tilt the bottle over with just a small bit left. All of the yeast will be in that small leftover slurry.

They tell me you'll enjoy it. To me, it smells like all other beer: foul.

One of my fencing buddies also recommends the Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales line, which I usually bring him when I stay as a guest in his house. He particularly likes La Roja. Jolly Pumpkin is brewed right near us, so I don't know how easy it will be to find.

Dean:


So we've been introducing Jake to the Indiana Jones movies. We just watched The Last Crusade tonight. Fun movie. Unfortunately we had to see them out of order, so Temple of Doom is next. Sadly, that's the weakest of the three.


Are you sure Jake will see it that way? I agree that the storylines are more sophisticated in the other two; but it seems to me that Temple of Doom has more kid-pleasing stuff. There's a kid in a major role, of course. But there's also the monkey brains, the roller coaster, the spiders...

Arnold:

You have a 30 foot long kitchen? My word, man, do you entertain small armies?


None of you can possibly know endless chaos...


Heh. I can't go into details, due to NDA; but I've been tasked with comprehending a competitor's code so that my client can devise a way to integrate our code into it. And that competitor's code may very well be the worst production code I have ever seen. There, sir, is endless chaos!

The frustrating part is that, while an NDA keeps me from discussing the code with you, I can't discuss it with them, either. My client wants to stay at arm's reach from the code, for various legal reasons. They're using me as a buffer, so that they can demonstrate that none of the competitor's code ended up in their own code. (Like anyone would want it...) So I can't discuss it with anyone. All I can do is sit in my cubicle, pore over code and draw UML models, and occasionally giggle hysterically at how bad it is (or bang my head on the desk if it's exceptionally stupid).

jaymaster:

There's not enough Benadryl in the world for it to have been me.

But bonus points for making me look up myoclonic.
9.30.2006 1:14am
Dean Esmay:
I used to like Hacker-Pschorr but I got tired of German beers generally. And yes, I've tried it many times served exactly as Martin described. It's pretty good, if you like wheat beers with a citrusy taste.

My preference in beer when I have a good beer is for bitter ale with only a light hint of sweetness if any. Porters are ales, as of course are Scottish Ales. If you have a taste for ales that means you enjoy beers with complex flavors; ales have a lot more complexity than regular beers do.
9.30.2006 9:05am
naftali (mail):
I can go for a bitterstout like guiness but I'm looking for something sweet.I tried imperial stout thinking that it was sweet.And it was, in a raunchy nighttime medican sort of way(though it does work;)

I'll try Hacker-Schorr Weiss

Thank you
9.30.2006 9:43pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
It's Hacker-Pschorr Weiss. Dean got the spelling right. I did, too, in the search engine; but somehow I got it wrong in the comment.
9.30.2006 10:10pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
As long as I brought it up: here's Baker Street. Oh, man, what a song!
9.30.2006 10:59pm