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Israel Is Already At War With Iran


They just aren't shooting back. For those that still doubt this is the case:
LONDON (AFP) - Iran will supply Hezbollah with surface-to-air missile systems in the coming months, boosting the guerrillas' defences against Israeli aircraft, according to a report by specialist magazine Jane's Defence Weekly, citing unnamed Western diplomatic sources.
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"Iranian authorities conveyed a message to the Hezbollah leadership that their forces would continue to receive a steady supply of weapons systems,"it added.
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"The details coming from the meeting reveal that they are about ensuring a constant supply of weapons to support Islamic Resistance operations against Israel," said Robin Hughes, the magazine's Middle East Editor.
Sigh. Looks like I was overly optimistic in thinking Iran couldn't re-arm Hizbollah till hostilities ended, which just reinforces what I've been saying: people need to accept the realities of the situation and deal with them.

Just for fun, let me posit a little hypothetical here. Let's say Israel was supplying some anti-Iranian forces based in Iraq with tens of thousands of rockets. They kidnap some Iranians and that sparks a military response from Iran. There's some debate over whether the group is winning or losing the ensuing conflict, but they've managed to launch thousands of the Israeli projectiles into Iran (deliberately killing Iranian civilians), and now Israel is going to supply them with SAMs. Oh, and the PM of Israel keeps saying Iran should be destroyed. Under those circumstances, don't you think Iran would have declared war on Israel some time ago, with little international condemnation given the provocation?

If there's one lesson we can take from history, it's that a noble tendency toward pacifism manifested practically as pre-emptive surrender is not a viable strategy against implacable enemies bent on your destruction, regardless of what international opinion says on the matter. In other words, if someone's shooting at you, you damn well better shoot back before he kills you, and never mind about the good citizenship awards you're foregoing having pinned to your corpse afterward.

And do you hear that ticking in the background? Nukes, nukes, nukes, nukes...

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jaymaster (mail):
Similarly then, I would argue that the US is already at war with Iran.

We’ve already shown that we’re willing to re-supply Israel with weapons. And as mentioned in previous posts, we’re giving tacit approval to Israel to keep pressing on.

And to be clear, I’m all for it.
8.4.2006 5:49pm
Ted Armstrong (mail) (www):
I've long considered this a proxy way between us and Iran. Hiszollah is Iran's proxy and Israel is ours.

I still think we should use a cruise to take out just one Iranian oil well. We would just say, "Oops our mistake."

But it would send a message.
8.4.2006 5:54pm
Ronald Coleman (mail) (www):
I think it's a very big oversimplification, Ted, to say that Israel is the proxy of the US. After all, in certain quarters quite the opposite is suggested. They share many of our values and interests, but a proxy? I really don't think so.
8.4.2006 7:03pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Well, the equivalence breaks down at this point:

Unlike the relationship between Iran/Syria and Hizbollah/Hamas, the United States is not using Israel to foment hatred and war, or arming them to commit terrorist acts. We're arming them to defend themselves from threats.

The really, really depressing thing is that Arabs and Persians have been brainwashed to believe the reverse. People who are otherwise quite reasonable honestly believe that these other countries are preventing Israel from invading its neighbors.

Disinformation is the cornerstone of the autocrats' power.
8.4.2006 7:20pm
Nicholas V. (mail) (www):
I would rewrite that press release to read

LONDON (AFP) - Iran will supply Hezbollah with missile targets in the coming months, boosting the guerrillas' ability to place them among civilians and get them killed by fire from Israeli aircraft, according to a report by specialist magazine Jane's Defence Weekly, citing unnamed Western diplomatic sources.
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"Iranian authorities conveyed a message to the Hezbollah leadership that their forces would continue to receive a steady supply of bomb magnets,"it added.
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"The details coming from the meeting reveal that they are about ensuring a constant supply of vehicles which alert aircraft to their presence and allow HARM missiles to home in on them for the Islamic Resistance operations against the citizens of Lebanon," said Robin Hughes, the magazine's Middle East Editor.
8.4.2006 8:47pm
Ted Armstrong (mail) (www):
Let's just say that Israel is fighting a war that, if they are successful, may prevent us from fighting a war. If Hezbollah can be defanged, Iran will have lost. Whether that will make them more or less whacky, I cannot tell.
8.4.2006 8:50pm
Mike (mail):
Ronald: Well, it is a sort of proxy in that we will not - in a great-power sort of way - allow it to fall.

But Israel is certainly no satellite taking orders from the USA; or, laughably, the other way around. It is an ally with a will of its own, like Germany - cranky, annoying, irritating at times - but its own.
8.5.2006 5:50pm
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