On the Guantanamo decision
Ron Coleman
You've heard about the Supreme Court's ruling by now:
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees.
The ruling, a strong rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies, was written by Justice John Paul Stevens, who said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and international Geneva conventions.
This stuff — war powers, the Geneva Convention — is not my speciality, but I was involved in one short exchange on one of my alumni email lists:
On Jun 29, 2006, at 10:37 AM, [my friend] wrote:
The only thing I found kind of odd was a quote [from] Justice Thomas who, during reading of his opinion, said the decision would "sorely hamper the president's ability to confront and defeat a new and deadly enemy".
Whether that's true or not, how is it relevant? If the law is a violation of the constitution, what does it matter if it helps or hampers the president?
I replied,
I think we may be missing something. The Constitution and SCOTUS recognize that the President is the Commander in Chief and has very broad powers to make war and defend the country. The question here is whether his war powers are broad enough to encompass these tribunals, and they answered no. But certainly whether the President is helped or hampered in his execution of those powers, how much he is or is not, and what other competing interests there must be, are part of that discussion.
Well, that's the depth I can get you to, as the official legal talent among the contributors here. In fact, there's much more going on here. I recommend clicking here to get into the vein of what people on the center-to-right-of-center blogs are saying about this decision.
UPDATE: Great coverage from a player, Walter Dellinger, at Slate. He explains:
For the proposition that the president has the authority to decline to abide by statutes he views as unconstitutional, the administration has relied principally on an opinion I authored as head of the Office of Legal Counsel in 1994. And rightly so. That opinion is based upon long-standing and consistent executive practice. Moreover, the most relevant U.S. Supreme Court decision, Myers v. United States, 272 US 52 (1926), by clear implication considers it appropriate for a president to decline to execute unconstitutional statutes. And as President Carter's Attorney General Ben Civiletti wrote in an 1980 opinion, the president's constitutional duty to execute the laws "does not require him to execute unconstitutional statutes; nor does it require him to execute them provisionally, against the day that they are declared unconstitutional by the courts."
This view is based upon the principle that the president's ultimate obligation is to the Constitution, and if a statute contravenes the Constitution, the president has the authority to decline to enforce it. This applies to laws that unconstitutionally impinge upon the president's own power. It is also unremarkable for a president to announce his view that a provision is unconstitutional in a statement issued when he signs the law.
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This administration has taken the astounding position that if the president has "inherent authority" to do and act whenever Congress is silent, then it follows that any act of Congress that regulates such an authority is an invalid impingement on his "inherent power." This conflation of what a president can do if no law prohibits his action and what he can when the law forbids it is a truly insidious legal doctrine.
The court made short work of it today. RIP "inherent presidential authority" to violate valid laws. Justice Kennedy makes this point more simply than I have. After noting that the military commission order "exceeds limits that certain statutes have placed on the President's authority to convene military courts," he asserts: This is not a case, then, where the Executive can assert some unilateral authority to fill a void left by congressional inaction. It is a case where Congress, in the proper exercise of its powers as an independent branch of government … has set limits on the President's authority.
This seemingly simply proposition has huge consequences.









1) The president has the authority to hold the prisoners at Guantanamo until the WOT is over, indefinitely if needed.
2) The prisoners must either be held as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention or must be charged with crimes and tried in US courts.
3) The president cannot establish a separate military court system to deal with these cases without authority from Congress.
I expect the administration will now ask Congress for authority to try the suspects at Military tribunals.
The Supreme Court rejected the argument that the Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF) resolution authorized the president to set up tribunals outside of the UCMJ.
Maybe they could submit them to a standard jury, and revise them until the jury understands them, with the proceedings recorded as part of the case records.
I say this while noting that, generally speaking, Supreme Court opinions are surprisingly accessable to this non-lawyer, and very interesting to boot.
Yours,
Wince
Bush has the Constitutional power to ignore any SC ruling. Congress can impeach Bush or cut off funding, but that's it on Bush's limits in war time. You can't even prosecute the soldiers who carry out Bush's orders, Bush would just pardon them. Well, if Bush did one of the two options I listed that is. He probably won't.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Could be a flawed methodology.
Yours,
Wince
Yeah, I'm willing to accept flawed methodology. Consider this: I was mainly going by things different lawyers on the internet were saying. Add in the press and we get even more variety.
Yours,
Wince
Here's a link to the PDF, and here's a link to Scotus Blog's comment on the decision (which I include only because I found it interesting.
So we might lose this war because AQ has smarter lawyers than the US?
Or is bureaucracy our problem?
Or might it be a lack of balls in our judges and lawyers?
Or is this good news in the Arnold Harris vein, in that our soldiers now know they must take no prisoners?
Come on you legal geniuses. Help this engineer make some sense of this ruling, please…
The majority did *not* say that the people in Guantanamo could not be tried. It said, in summary:
* Trials must be conducted in accordance with the rules Congress has established, not rules established by the President;
* The Congress has required that such things be conducted in compliance with the UCMJ
* The UCMJ requires that the 'laws of war' be followed
* The 'laws of war' include the Geneva Conventions
* The Geneva Conventions require that trials of people picked up in occuppied territory or in conflicts not between states be conducted via regular channels, not via specially constituted courts.
All of which says: the administration is trying to do something Congress never authorized it to do. Congress could pass such an authorization tomorrow and the decision would be rendered irrelevant.
So the question is: does Congress step up to the plate, or does it continue to try to pass the buck?
What Congress says is irrelevant, as the administration and its lawyer, David Addington, read the constitution differently than almost anyone else in the country...