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The Growing Quagmire in Iraq


After reading this, even the most ardent supporters of the war must admit the obvious: there is a growing quagmire in Iraq.

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Tom Grey (mail) (www):
You're absolutely right.

Should I laugh or cry? &why?

For the media, I
will merely let go a sigh.
5.31.2006 10:15am
Jerry Kindall (www):
The growing Quagmire in Iraq: "Hey, does this look like a 'Q' to you?"
5.31.2006 11:35am
Bryan Costin (mail) (www):
Engaging MSM translation/inversion subroutines. Working... Translation complete: "Post-invasion neglect of pioneering mosquito control efforts may cost the lives of 'millions' of Iraqi civillians, says one expert."
5.31.2006 1:32pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Sounds like a war crime to me, Bryan.
5.31.2006 1:35pm
Dean Esmay:
It may be a growing quagmire, but is it spinning out of control?
5.31.2006 4:17pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
Quagmires don't spin at all. They just sort of sit there, waiting for some moron to set his foot in one of them, then put his weight on that foot.

And that's the way the quagmire quakes.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
5.31.2006 4:42pm
McGehee (mail) (www):
Giggety giggety!
5.31.2006 5:16pm
Dean Esmay:
"A quagmire that's spinning out of control" is my own intentional malapropism to describe how very silly the war's critics have been ever since the first boot hit the ground and they began declaring it a failure, a debacle, a quagmire, and a situation spinning out of control.

"A quagmire that's spinning out of control" humorously describes the entire litany for me. I thought you would have noticed the tongue-in-cheek nature of it by now. ;-)
5.31.2006 5:48pm
Martin L. Shoemaker (www):
I say ignore the critics, and stay the course! If this quagire seems to get bigger, too bad!

On a more serious note: I think it's important to note why this happened:


Iraq's marshes were devastated in the 1980s and 1990s by the Hussein regime's campaign to ditch, dike, drain, and burn them. Unable to pursue their traditional means of livelihood--fishing, herding water buffalo, and hunting--tens of thousands of Marsh Arabs fled to southern Iran.


It wasn't a casual coincidence of some ingenious or misguided urban renewal plan on Saddam's part. Ruining the marshes and punishing, driving out, or killing the Marsh Arabs was the whole point of the effort.
5.31.2006 6:21pm
Dean Esmay:
Yep. Imagine for example if you were dictator of the United States and you decided you didn't like Louisiana, so you dammed up and diverted the entire Mississippi so it no longer flowed down there at all.

Or, if you wanted to destroy Egypt, you'd just dam up and divert the Nile.

Those are more exaggerated examples but they're there to make the point: this was an intentional effort to destroy the entire economy and way of life for those living there, and it did. Quite a few of them died, even more had their livelihoods and their entire way of life utterly destroyed. It was one of Saddam's more cruel acts.
5.31.2006 6:53pm