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Alan Rusbridger: Ignorant or Dishonest?

Ah, here we have a picture perfect example of why the mainstream press is so despised: Alan Rusbridger of The Guardian.

The biggest laugh was this bit:

In an age where some parts of the world remain no-go areas to ordinary people, like Baghdad, it's newspapers which are sending reporters like Jonathon Steel, 67, who said "he wanted to go. What happens if all the journalists pull out? There's a duty to go. There aren't any bloggers volunteering to go."

This statement is so utterly ridiculous it's impossible to know where to begin. As a blogger, I get 90% of my information on Iraq from:

A) English-speaking Iraqi bloggers living in Iraq
B) My dad, who's serving over there, whom I relay info from to my readers when I can
C) Military bloggers who are either serving there now or who have served there, some of whom are friends or at least friendly acquaintances, many of whom have reported firsthand of their experiences
D) Extraordinary volunteer bloggers like Michael Totten, Michael Yon, Steven Vincent, and other civilian bloggers who've gone over there strictly on their own dime
E) Arab press, some of it Iraqi and some of it from surrounding Arab nations
F) Government documents, most of which I no longer need the press to report to me since I can get them myself just fine, thanks.

Where I get almost none of it: cheap anti-American british tabloids like The Guardian, or, the American press itself, most of which probably thinks of The Guardian as the height of responsible war reporting.

The question is, is Rusbridger a deeply ignorant man, or simply a liar? Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume "deeply ignorant." It still says everything we need to know about why his industry is in free fall, doesn't it?

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Nicholas V. (mail) (www):
Bill Roggio collected donations and spend 3 weeks or so reporting from Iraq too.
3.24.2006 12:36pm
Dean Esmay:
Oh, there are other examples too. The ones I named were just off the top of my head.
3.24.2006 12:38pm
Val Prieto (mail) (www):
Youre being too kind to Rusbridger. He's not deeply ignorant.
3.24.2006 12:46pm
Dave Schuler (mail) (www):
But there's something else he's missing, Dean. A fundamental concept of blogging: bloggers don't have to go there. They're already there. They live there. There are Arab Sunni Muslim bloggers and Arab Shi'a Muslim bloggers and Kurdish bloggers and secularist Iraqi bloggers.

And that's why the established media need to reconsider their relationship with blogs. Bloggers aren't the competition. They're the newspapers' and cable news outlets' customers.

And they're also their suppliers. A new group of stringers with more varied expertise and who can provide more extensive coverage than anything the established media have envisioned in their wildest dreams.

But they'll have to give up their gatekeeper role.
3.24.2006 1:37pm
OCSteve:

Bill Roggio collected donations and spend 3 weeks or so reporting from Iraq too.


Think about how extraordinary that is. In any previous war, it would be impossible for a civilian to take it on themselves to travel to a war zone and report back what they see.

Certainly they could get there on their own dime – but they would not have an audience to report to. What is the chance they could get a paper back home to pick up their material?

Here we have the audience, the consumer, essentially paying in advance for more news about something they have an interest in.

You don’t want to give us the full story MSM – well then to hell with you. We’ll just send our own guy in.
3.24.2006 2:39pm
kbiel (mail):

Think about how extraordinary that is. In any previous war, it would be impossible for a civilian to take it on themselves to travel to a war zone and report back what they see.


Actually, that's just not true. There have always been free lance journalists. The difference is the channels through which they must publish. In the past, you had to shop your story to the MSM and if they didn't pick it up, you were just SOL. Now, like Michael Yon, you can publish to the web as well as shop the story around.
3.24.2006 3:17pm
OCSteve:

Actually, that's just not true. There have always been free lance journalists. The difference is the channels through which they must publish. In the past, you had to shop your story to the MSM and if they didn't pick it up, you were just SOL


Agreed. I thought I made that point:

"Certainly they could get there on their own dime – but they would not have an audience to report to. What is the chance they could get a paper back home to pick up their material?"

I guess I wasn't clear enough.
3.24.2006 3:34pm
Tom Hawkson:
Well, while it is true there are bloggers who went to Iraq, I do think it only fair to say that there are more paid journalists in Iraq than bloggers, and that we would miss them if they were gone. I agree with someone who said that the MSM is doing D+ work in Iraq, but D+ is 65%. That's a lot higher than the 0% we'd get if they weren't there. Rusbridger's problem isn't that he is ignorant, it's that he isn't listening to his customers and his potential customers. We are serious about that industry D+, Mr. Rusbridger, but The Guardian -- it's one of the papers pushing the average down.

Yours,
Wince
3.24.2006 11:11pm
Dean Esmay:
Maybe we'd miss them, maybe we wouldn't. They outright admit now that they do almost all their reporting holed up in hotels in Baghdad, afraid to walk the streets. How many of them have even BEEN where Michael Totten is up in Kurdistan? (I'm not sure, I'm just asking.) I get a better feel from what's going on over there from actual Iraqi bloggers, and milbloggers, and so on, than I do from anything in the press.
3.24.2006 11:25pm
Tom Hawkson:
Dean,

Oh, I have to agree about the higher quality of the bloggers, and also Strategy Page, then anything out of the MSM. And yet many times when the other shoe has dropped and the mountain has turned out to be a molehill, the article which lets us know is from the MSM - a small article, in the back pages, true - but from the MSM.

Sometimes it's even on the front page.

Yours,
Wince
3.25.2006 12:29am
Mike "Veeshir" Fisher (mail):
Ignorant or Dishonest?

I'll take "C", willfully ignorant.
3.25.2006 11:32am
Dean Esmay:
Willfully ignorant is still ignorant... just a worse variety.
3.26.2006 12:51am
Mike "Veeshir" Fisher (mail):
I look at is a combination of "ignorant" and "dishonest". With the emphasis on "dishonest".
3.26.2006 10:46am